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Christian Atheists

What?

I got this link in my email this morning, and I admit, I stared blankly at the hyperlink for what seemed like hours before finally clicking it. Interesting stuff found I.

Many atheists will tell you that there are certain things that religion does well, and while there is no such thing as an irreplaceable person or organization, the fact that something can be replaced does not mean the replacement will be as effective at anything. Maybe a world without religion would be better, but I highly doubt it. The fact is that even if there is no God or any other type of being humans have not practiced religion for the better part of 100,000 years because it’s silly and provides no benefits, it’s been a valuable part, perhaps a defining part, of human development.

I think that is where these christian atheists come in. I am reasonably certain that if someone convinced me there was no God, I would still attend church, because I like it and that’s all there is to it. We know that the working brain and the body are not separate entities in the sense that they do not interact, obviously they interact continuously. Numerous studies show that prayer is effective.

What? You don’t believe me?

Go have a sniff around the intertubes. I’d do it but my mouse has died and although it is a touch screen computer, highlighting seems to be impossible, at least for me. I may try and come back if I track down some batteries. But anyway, back to what I was saying.

There are loads of studies connecting not just prayer, but any kind of positive thinking or even for that matter anything that keeps one disciplined can speed healing processes, you have to look no further than recovery times of injured soldiers as opposed to the average joe suffering the same injury. Religion, while not perfect at it, has usually been a fantastic source of hope in the worst of times and discipline in the best of them. As many people can attest, prayer is not so much different from meditation and that is widely accepted to have health benefits. So prayer, even if there is no God, can be a positive force, remember that just mental stress can weaken a persons immune system, body and mind, connected I say.

So I guess I can understand how some atheists could possibly continue, or even start, to practice many of the things common among the christian religions, just with the caveat that they don’t believe in God. Especially since there is no source of objective morality that we humans have access to, a persons morals are their own, even among Catholics, Muslims or whomever else you can think of, have differing opinions, take Catholics for example.

51% favor a bigger government with more services.
48% are Democrats, and that is a plurality.
60% favor stronger environmental policies, no matter what the cost.
And the kicker, a full 58% of Catholics think homosexuality should be accepted by society.

It’s clear that even though liberals whine and cry about all of the religious being right wingers, it just simply isn’t so and with a huge chunk of Americas being catholic, they are an important voting bloc and the democrats would never win an election again without them.

So since morality is so fluid, even among groups you would expect to be similar, in hindsight it isn’t surprising that there are atheists who for all intents and purposes are practicing Christians.

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  1. 2012/02/06 at 21:42

    The fact is that even if there is no God or any other type of being humans have not practiced religion for the better part of 100,000 years because it’s silly and provides no benefits, it’s been a valuable part, perhaps a defining part, of human development.

    We used to also kill outsiders. Something being historically important to our evolution does not make it necessarily valuable today.

    Numerous studies show that prayer is effective.

    At what? It’s intended purpose of affecting the world around us or its incidental relaxing effect?

  2. 2012/02/07 at 01:38

    Value is a personal judgement, just because you don’t value religion in practically any way, doesn’t change whether or not it has value to others, every judgment of value is individually subjective.

    What is it with you and the word incidental? I’m quite sure that people pray specifically to relax themselves in some, if not most, cases.

  3. 2012/02/07 at 08:40

    As I mentioned in a post a little while back, there does seem to be some effort afoot by a few to borrow all the ‘good stuff’ from religion without getting into all the icky God stuff.

    http://jackhudson.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/atheism-2-0/

  4. 2012/02/07 at 17:42

    Value is a personal judgement, just because you don’t value religion in practically any way, doesn’t change whether or not it has value to others, every judgment of value is individually subjective.

    You and those goal posts. The argument you made was that because religion has likely been valuable to humans for the past 100,000 years, it must also have value today. First, you’re using two different types of “value”. The first is one which pertains to fitness and can be measured, at least theoretically. The genes which one passes on have an evolutionary value which is descriptive, not normative. The other sort of value is the sort insofar as you value gun ownership. Second, your logic is non-existent here. Something have use for one period does not mean it has use for another.

    What is it with you and the word incidental? I’m quite sure that people pray specifically to relax themselves in some, if not most, cases.

    You like to waste your time in stuffing buildings and archaic dogmas so maybe you’ll have an answer, but I’m not sure which part of the Bible says that is the purpose of prayer.

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