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As terrible as it may seem, women are not made for combat. That’s just the way it is. They are smaller and weaker on average and there is nothing anyone can do about that. With many combat troops going into combat carrying 100 pounds or more, there are simply not enough women that are physically able to justify the added expense of training them as combat troops to produce few new soldiers.

Many women find themselves in combat situations, but that it not altogether the same thing as being in a combat unit.

They are also saying that military leadership is too white. Well that’s too bad. There just aren’t many minorities in the infantry, that’s no ones fault. My infantry training unit in basic training had over 200 people in it. 7 of them were black. I estimate about 20% of them were some kind of latino. I use the basic training example because its not fair to make a comparison based on my Maine Army National Guard unit, universally white, but this is Maine, that’s no ones fault either.

So when some people are going on about the military leadership being too white and too male, just remember that combat forces are where a lot of those people are drawn from. They have the experience that’s required. It’s counter productive to try and force some racial or gender diversity in there just for the sake of it, there is no reason. It would simply weaken the military by putting less experienced people in positions they won’t be effective at.

The Navy has recently begun putting women on submarines. It’s expensive but worth the expense in that case, the submarine corps is volunteer only and so they foresee the need to get everyone they can.

Don’t let political correctness weaken our military, it doesn’t help anyone and would likely cost lives.

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  1. 2011/03/11 at 19:29

    As terrible as it may seem, women are not made for combat.

    I’d posit that no one is “made for” combat. It’s the reason we have soldiers coming home with PTSD. We weren’t made for killing one another, and we’re especially not made for the sort of indiscriminate “collateral damage” killings that are part and parcel of at least modern warfare.

    It’s why the army has basic training: A person has to be trained to deliberately point a gun or missile at another human being. We weren’t made for that.

    Now, as to women being, in general, smaller and having less upper body strength than men, in general, this is true. But not every man is taller and has great upper body strength. Beyond that, there are jobs in the military, I understand, that do not require the upper body strength that other jobs require.

    If we’re going to have a military and IF we’re going to honor civil rights as part of our nation’s ethics, then we need to open jobs up to anyone who is qualified to get that job. I don’t think anyone is speaking of giving jobs away indiscriminately.

  2. 2011/03/11 at 19:31

    Don’t let political correctness weaken our military, it doesn’t help anyone and would likely cost lives.

    I don’t think anyone is speaking of “political correctness.” They’re speaking of the very real strength of diversity. They’re speaking of the very real strength of our nation’s ideals. I think, IF we’re going to have a military, it will only be strengthened by having a diverse group of people leading it.

  3. 2011/03/11 at 21:23

    omen make up 14% of the US army. That’s lovely. If women were to be in combat than I would think they would have to meet the same physical qualifications a male would. How many females are going to be able to match that? The alternative would be to lower the requirements for men, but how does that help? We are not starving for combat troops. There are a lot of men that wash out of infantry school, the few women that would make it… They just aren’t worth the cost, in real terms a handful of people just are not worth it. It’s expensive to put people through any kind of military training.

    The argument that racial and gender diversity has power is a bad one, it always appears to me that this argument is the opposite of saying skin color and gender don’t matter. All of the sudden they matter? Being black doesn’t make you better at anything, being male doesn’t, being female doesn’t, being latino doesn’t. I hope they continue to fill these billets based on experience rather than on a quota. The only true differences are physical ones, and those are the only ones that should be given any credence.

    If you mean diversity of ideas than I will agree with you, if I were to agree that one race or gender has something to offer by nature of that physical attribute, than one could easily start justifying slavery and other oppression based on gender and race. “White men have more to offer. Back in the fields and you get back in the kitchen. Pie, now.”

  4. 2011/03/11 at 22:00

    The argument that racial and gender diversity has power is a bad one, it always appears to me that this argument is the opposite of saying skin color and gender don’t matter. All of the sudden they matter?

    I don’t know of anyone seriously saying that there are no differences between men and women. I don’t know of anyone seriously saying there are no differences between cultures.

    What I think most folk are saying is that those differences should not hinder equality or justice. I think most folk are saying that we’re BETTER because of our differences in backgrounds and strengths and weaknesses.

    For instance, I’d suggest that women tend to be more empathetic and less willing to follow orders if those orders might involve causing harm to innocent children. That difference is a good thing. Now, ought we kick men out of the army because they lack that sort of empathy?

    No. Our differences make us stronger.

    if I were to agree that one race or gender has something to offer by nature of that physical attribute, than one could easily start justifying slavery and other oppression based on gender and race.

    Well that would be ridiculous, wouldn’t it? The whole idea of our great experiment in this nation is that we are FREE from oppression and equal in opportunity and justice, regardless of who we are. So acknowledging that our differences make us stronger and are a good thing, THIS is in fitting with our ideals. Suggesting that our differences make it okay to oppress one or another group, that’s wholly opposite of our ideals.

    We can acknowledge differences and not fall back to oppression based on those differences. I can’t see how that would make sense.

  5. 2011/03/11 at 22:54

    I’m perfectly happy acknowledging differences. I’m certain it makes us all better.

    I simply don’t think race or gender, aside from the obvious typical physical differences in men and women, make any difference in performance. You do. That’s all I need to know.

  6. 2011/03/12 at 07:40

    Just so we are absolutely crystal clear on this,I don’t care if it’s 98% cross-dressing cocker spaniels. National defense is the one area above all else where you can NOT afford to play childish affirmative-action games. War is not an activity for children.

  7. 2011/03/12 at 07:42

    In Africa war is an activity for children, that’s not relevant here though, so disregard.

  8. 2011/03/12 at 10:04

    I simply don’t think race or gender, aside from the obvious typical physical differences in men and women, make any difference in performance. You do. That’s all I need to know.

    You are the one that brought up differences between men and women. I just acknowledged that there are differences between ALL people. I’m saying those differences make us stronger and that these differences ought not be a reason in and of themselves to exclude a whole group of people.

  9. 2011/03/12 at 10:44

    I only mentioned physiological differences. The differences you were talking about do not make leadership more effective. The same physiological differences exclude a lot of men also, men just have the biological advantage of being physically stronger, pound for pound.

  10. 2011/03/12 at 13:12

    Yes, we all recognize that there are physiological differences between men (on average) and women (on average). The point I’m trying to make is that there are many things that contribute towards someone being good at a given job. For combat soldiering, strength is probably one good attribute.

    And those who can demonstrate the requisite strength, they should be allowed to take those roles: Whether those are men or women, black or white.

    My further point is that strength is not the end all/be all of what would make a good soldier. Wisdom, restraint, empathy, endurance, tenacity, courage, integrity, mental strength… these are all ALSO good traits to have in a soldier. Of all these traits, I’d say that strength is not the most important.

    Taking that into consideration, I am fine with having some strength requirements for successfully being a soldier. But I would hope that these other traits would also be kept in mind.

    All in all, I think our military would be better off with a diversity of members, not a monoculture, which I think would be a severe weakness.

    The differences you were talking about do not make leadership more effective.

    I’m not sure what you think I’m talking about, but I’m talking about these things that I’ve mentioned and having a diversity of folk representing all these traits is a good thing. Do you think having folk with strong morals, with strong wills, with tenacity, with differing points of view, differing cultures, etc… do you think THESE differences do not lead to a more effective organization? Then I would disagree.

  11. 2011/03/12 at 21:46

    Are we done? I’m kind of bored with this topic.

    Experiential differences are what determines who gets these positions now. Combat experience is a big part of it. Thus those of a certain physical pedigree will get those positions.

    That’s been my whole point all along, I don’t know what else I can say.

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